Tall stack height bike options?

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Originally Posted by NHAero

67mm of trail is kinda long in my book, based only on my preferences for a road-ish bike. It may be worth noting that geo with the same trail can also have different wheel flop. The Diverge mentioned has more flop (22mm) than a geo with a steeper HTA and lower fork rake. I don't like the feeling of having much flop but that's a preference, yours may vary.

The point is that in stock bikes, small ones have more trail and flop usually. And going to the gravel category to get more stack may come with other characteristics that the person may or may not want.

I agree that 67mm is a lot of trai for a road bike or even an all road bike.
But I ride frames that are quite big and the trail number on my size frames are typically lower than smaller frames due to smaller frames needing to have a slacker hta for toe clearance.
I like 58-60mm for my gravel bike and actually my main road bike with 32mm tires falls into this range too.