"Good Condition" ?
 

Offered for discussion:

This frame is listed as in "Good Condition".

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296377571767

To me, this frame looks ridden hard and put away wet. Maybe solved with a new paint job, but there is significant rust IMO.

Would you consider this good condition?

My size, wonder what it will go for?

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RM0AA...I/s-l1200.webp

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2xwAA...h/s-l1200.webp

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/xPQAA...h/s-l1200.webp

That is a possibly restorable “Fair” condition, possibly “Poor to fair”.

The obvious rust converter used is one thing, but some of those wounds on the stays look kinda deep... maybe just an optical illusion.

While the description as being in "good" condition is a bit (ahem) "generous", I also note that the seller started the bidding at quite the modest $0.99. The photos are all available to the bidders, and as it has already been bid up to $970 5 days before the auction end, it appears at least some people think it is in good enough condition.

CX bike that someone rode/raced the piss out of: looks like a lot chain suck and tire wear. Surprised there are no obvious dents.

That BB shell is like staring into the abyss.

I'd call that poor condition.

Well, they're not making any more vintage RS cyclocross bikes!

...but...I'd be concerned about the rust on the stays too. Would be sub-optimal to buy that frame and send it out for paint, only to learn that the tin worm has eaten through a couple of the more important tubes.

I'm having a really hard time understanding why someone would bid over $900 for that frame. But there are at least 4 bidders going toe-to-toe on it!

So, shows what I know.

Hey, if you ride a hard-to-find size, and are looking for a super-specific bike, and have the time and money to do a nice restoration of a neglected frame, I guess this is your Holy Grail. Definitely worth the money if that's the case!

That’s how to sell something you want to move. I did that a number of years ago and it all sold and I miss none of it.

Imperfect descriptions are perfect :cool:

Ah, eBay. The future (circa 1997).

Run, anyone that would describe this frame as "good condition" couldn't be trusted to even own what they are claiming to sell.

A little surprising coming from Piermont Bike, which is a legitimate shop with a long history, but on the other hand, there are more than enough pictures to make clear the state of the bike, so hopefully no buyer will feel misled.

Last year, I bought a Gunnar from ebay. The photos showed some rust, but not all of it. The bike was listed as refurbished by the owner, but the back wheel would hardly move. I contacted ebay and the buyer gave me a discount which I accepted.

I told the seller that it looked refurbished with a hammer and chisel!

I put my components on it and love it. I touched up the rust spots, but fear they will reappear. Nothing like the Gunnar that you scored on Angry.

Does not every RS frame symbolize the impermanent nature of life?

A steel mandala, created and then destroyed?